Ceramic Coating

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Ant379 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:14 pm

I reviewed 3 accredited detailers and all where thereabouts with one another on cost . All way more than £350.

I have since been on his website and you're not wrong. Just find it worryingly low.

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Belly » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:05 am

I find him a friendly professional young lad. He's just growing his franchise. He's detailed my other car too. It's not a 2 day job unless you include 'curing' time. On the back of my job I know he's done a couple of RSs at the same garage. He spends a full day for maybe £200ish labour? Up to you. But just goes to show how much the others are making.
My Stang looks great and I'm happy.

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Garvin » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:56 pm

The iValet prices are very competitive but they do not include any machine polishing which makes a considerable difference and probably explains the wide difference to a 'full' Gtechniq package - even a light buff is quite expensive!

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Ant379 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:07 pm

Just dug out the paperwork:

New car detail:
Single Stage Polish
Crystal Serum (Not Light)
Exo
Full Wheel Armour
Glass Protection

£685 + VAT

Still puzzled at £350. All the products, labour, insurance, premises. Such a pessimist :lol:

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Garvin » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:54 pm

Have you got a price broken out for the single stage polish - I think you'll find that it is quite expensive in its own right! The iValet price does not include polishing of any type, just claying and cleaning before the coating is applied.

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Rooster » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:00 pm

Does anyone know of any good detailers and someone who could do underseal in the Glasgow area or a reasonable distance?

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Ant379 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:46 pm

Hi, Garvin

No, I don't have a split but at the time, I was having new Pirellis put on our old A3 and he did them at £65 each.

He clayed the car.

May I ask how much you paid?

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Garvin » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:25 pm

The car was:

Washed,
Clayed
Washed
Treated with cleaner
Light polish during which some roughness on the front offside front bumper and headlight was removed and all light swirls removed.
Cleaned down again
Outside paintwork treated with Crystal Serum the Exo.
All other outer plastic surfaces treated
All glass cleaned and glass protected
Wheels off full clean of rims and Armour protected
All interior carpets cleaned
All interior trim cleaned and leather conditioned

£795 + VAT = £954

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Ant379 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:42 am

Garvin wrote:The car was:

Washed,
Clayed
Washed
Treated with cleaner
Light polish during which some roughness on the front offside front bumper and headlight was removed and all light swirls removed.
Cleaned down again
Outside paintwork treated with Crystal Serum the Exo.
All other outer plastic surfaces treated
All glass cleaned and glass protected
Wheels off full clean of rims and Armour protected
All interior carpets cleaned
All interior trim cleaned and leather conditioned

£795 + VAT = £954



Marginally better in price but nothing to concerning. I do know it was clayed and polished so I am sure they would have:

Washed mine when received,
Clayed,
Washed,
Buffed
Panel Wiped Down (Must do for Crystal Serum)
Crystal Serum
Exo
Wheel Armour (Inside rims as well to be precise).
Glass Protection

As for the interior, I bought the Gtechniq products myself and treated the upholstery the next day I bought the car with:

Smart Fabric (Stinks like solvent glue),
Leather with Leather Guard,
Matt Dash for plastics.

For some reason, dust simply doesnt fall in the car. Its weird. The only thing that soils my car is my little mutt who comes work with me and gets his hairs all over the matts.

The paint work was like silk and still is. Really am still impressed with it.

I have no swirls on my car or scratches (apart from 2 light scratches and a scratched passenger side chome trim I suspect the garage did when it went in to have the window fixed. I only noticed it a week later when I washed it and think ill have a job proving it. :evil:

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Garvin » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:56 pm

The guy that did mine reported the worst and most time consuming job was getting underseal off the inside of the wheel rims before he could treat them. Now this didn't happen at ModUrStang when they undersealed it a couple of days earlier as I was there when they removed the wheels prior to doing the job properly that Ford should have done!

Now considering that the outer floor pans were originally bereft of any underseal and most was on the exhaust, diff and suspension arms it appears that Ford also managed to get overspray inside the wheel rims whilst completely missing some of the floor pan!

You might like to check yours.

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Dennt41 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:27 pm

Had this done by flawless detailing in Coventry
Multi stage wash and prep
2 stage machine polish
Gyeon MOHS Q2 ceramic coating 2 layers and cure
Gyeon Repel - glass coating
Wheels off detail - Gyeon Rim
Interior detail and protection - gyeon leather guard
Cost was £600, the car looks absolutely fabulous, I gave it its first wash and dry with microfiber cloths...only took 25mins and the dead flies from the front came off really easily.
One note...he discovered that the one rear wheel had been resprayed on the car!!!!!!...Ford are arranging for it to be powder coated and re protected...obviously FOC...makes you wonder what happens during shipping.

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Ant379 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:49 am

Dennt41 wrote:Had this done by flawless detailing in Coventry
Multi stage wash and prep
2 stage machine polish
Gyeon MOHS Q2 ceramic coating 2 layers and cure
Gyeon Repel - glass coating
Wheels off detail - Gyeon Rim
Interior detail and protection - gyeon leather guard
Cost was £600, the car looks absolutely fabulous, I gave it its first wash and dry with microfiber cloths...only took 25mins and the dead flies from the front came off really easily.
One note...he discovered that the one rear wheel had been resprayed on the car!!!!!!...Ford are arranging for it to be powder coated and re protected...obviously FOC...makes you wonder what happens during shipping.


Unfortunately, the people who manually Handle the cars from A to B are probably not on much more than minimum wage so will do so with their brain turned off while waiting for home time.

At least that is what I would suspect anyway.

Ceramic coating is the way forward. Would love to see the next generation of this stuff. Hopefully it's like that shellac stuff women put on their nails that doesn't chip off lol

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Re: Ceramic Coating

Postby Garvin » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:27 am

A quick update.

The vehicle is sooo easy to wash, nothing sticks to it at all and even just giving it a spray over with clean de-ionised water through the power washer gets rid of 90% of the crud - not perfect, but it can be kept pretty clean with just a five minute spraying session.

The wheels don't seem to get coated in brake dust! I don't know whether this is due to the coating applied or that the Mustang brake pads just don't dust badly - anyone know?

Full washing brings the car up like new with the minimum of effort. Time will tell of course but three months in and it is looking good.


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