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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby waylander » Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:53 pm

looks great but...... not read the full speck but is it on airride since (IMO) it just looks a little too low?

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby badhand » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:31 am

waylander wrote:looks great but...... not read the full speck but is it on airride since (IMO) it just looks a little too low?


Is it feck on airride! :shock:

And no you can't go too low. (IMO)

That rhymed nicely didn't it?

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby badhand » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:08 pm

So while we wait for the rear end to arrive and argue amongst ourselves about the front end, we've been scribbling ideas on napkins along the theme of aerodynamics. The following sketches approach it from a visual angle to be fair. Just getting what looks right really.

I know without extensive calculations and wind tunnels and testing blah blah, we're not going to have any real clue what's really going to work best, but we're assuming we'll see positive (however minor) effects from any of these suggestions...

Tunnel should work.
Wing should work.
Vents should extract heat.
Ducts should cool brakes.

So we've just got to get the stuff looking bad ass. Untypically for me, I'm feeling most comfortable with the first and most 'subtle' option. It's a '69 so no point going too Rocket Bunny here.

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby Manders Mustang » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:25 pm

i actually like #2, That being said, #1 comes before #3 in that list.

It's down to how the Aero works on the car, bigger wing, bigger downforce, but bigger drag, so power has to be counteracted on the drag... or so I'm told - I'd leave the 'aero question' with someone who doesn't base their mods on 'More horsies' or 'Looks cooler' (some duck fin wings look alright, some look like shit, as do some ironing board wings)
Maybe a step spoiler might work best? Who knows...



In other news, looking at the reg plate you had down there, what about this for a plate:
http://dvlaregistrations.direct.gov.uk/ ... &price=399
(HE17 RZR)
Unless you've already bought HE11 RZR.... :lol:

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby badhand » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:56 am

Nice plate find Manderson. That's pretty low down on the shopping list though.

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby Twin Turbo » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:23 am

Loving the first render, Nick :rock

As for the 'plates, as you know, you can't put a "new" style 'plate on an older car. Nice idea though, and I'm sure there are age-related 'plates that would work, if you so desire :)

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby badhand » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:49 am

Twin Turbo wrote:Loving the first render, Nick :rock

As for the 'plates, as you know, you can't put a "new" style 'plate on an older car. Nice idea though, and I'm sure there are age-related 'plates that would work, if you so desire :)



Not even thinking about that now. May even end up with a plate with a 'Q' in it..... Anyway, worry about that later.

And welcome back! How was SEMA and where are the pics?

Gulp. :(


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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby Manders Mustang » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:19 am

Twin Turbo wrote:Loving the first render, Nick :rock

As for the 'plates, as you know, you can't put a "new" style 'plate on an older car. Nice idea though, and I'm sure there are age-related 'plates that would work, if you so desire :)


But his car won't be an "older car" as it'll be a one off, the joys of DVLA, it's a question if he wanta a '17 plate, but I'm pretty sure it's dependant on car registration to the DVLA (Unless declared that the car is older) I can't imagine DVLA putting the car as an import when it was all build here, and pretty sure it's not just down to chasis age (IIRC BH is putting a '16 coyote in it...)



@BH that's true, car first, then worry about the plate ;)!

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby Spanner Monkey » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:36 pm

badhand wrote:So while we wait for the rear end to arrive and argue amongst ourselves about the front end, we've been scribbling ideas on napkins along the theme of aerodynamics. The following sketches approach it from a visual angle to be fair. Just getting what looks right really.

I know without extensive calculations and wind tunnels and testing blah blah, we're not going to have any real clue what's really going to work best, but we're assuming we'll see positive (however minor) effects from any of these suggestions...

Tunnel should work.
Wing should work.
Vents should extract heat.
Ducts should cool brakes.

So we've just got to get the stuff looking bad ass. Untypically for me, I'm feeling most comfortable with the first and most 'subtle' option. It's a '69 so no point going too Rocket Bunny here.

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I'm torn between them. I think they all have good points, so I'd go:
Rear wing in #1, but with the tunnel from #3.
Front spoiler/bumper of #2, but with a larger centre vent like #3.
Don't like any of the front brake duct vents, but don't know what I would like.

Glad to help!

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby badhand » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:37 pm

With you totally. Especially brake ducts. Really hard to find some sort of shape that works on that big flat spoiler.

How about some simple, big circular bezels in the lower vent. Or even behind it to keep clean?

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Or some this shape, as I was envisaging for option 3, but tucked out of sight underneath the spoiler, towards the outer edges?

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby Twin Turbo » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:20 am

That's looking :cow

Thinking on it a little more, I like that rear diffuser as it adds a little S55o touch to the rear end :)

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby Manders Mustang » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:01 am

Twin Turbo wrote:That's looking :cow

Thinking on it a little more, I like that rear diffuser as it adds a little S55o touch to the rear end :)



and centre pipes :rock !

Not sure on the big ol' ventilation holes in the middle of the bottom grille, if they're behind a mesh it'll probably look more aesthetically pleasing to the eye. :cow

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby Spanner Monkey » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:05 pm

badhand wrote:With you totally. Especially brake ducts. Really hard to find some sort of shape that works on that big flat spoiler.

How about some simple, big circular bezels in the lower vent. Or even behind it to keep clean?

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That is excellent!
I was going to suggest that you draw the air to the brakes from the lower vent, but assumed you'd prefer 'more holes and bumps'.
Take the brake ducting from the void behind the lower vent with no external signs. Providing the vent and void are correctly sized, the airflow to the brakes will be better than with a 'funnel' type vent.

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby ambulocetus27 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:38 pm

Just in case you fancy sprinting the car with me ;-) You might not at the moment, but worth keeping your options open. It is MUCH more fun than track days with less stress on the car and no chance of being punted off the track by a twunt with a back-to-front baseball cap in a Vauxhall Corsa.

All looks legal to MSA regulations (assuming you are in the "modified" class). However, rear wing cannot be higher then the middle of the rear window.

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Re: MFUK Project car 'Hellraiser' - The build thread.

Postby badhand » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:52 pm

Spooky! I was just about to ask you about your sprints.

It's a way off, but I wouldn't mind a go at that. Do regs allow two drivers to compete in the same car?


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